Explicit Underground and independent cinema with explicit sex

Nochvemo

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@Nochvemo, while I do appreciate bizarre nudity in a multiple-Oscars-nominated film with multiple A-List actors, is this unsimulated or explicit in any way? I only skimmed, but I didn't see anything that might indicate more than brief, albeit full-frontal, nudity. I would barely categorize it as Graphic, unless I'm missing something?
You are right when you say that there is nothing exceptional here, except nudity. But I thought it appropriate to include the film in this thread basically due to the explicit context it aims to convey. And the fact that it is Emma Stone herself who stars in it, perhaps can provide added value ;)
 

Nochvemo

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Al Otro Lado del Espejo (1973)
AKA Lo Specchio del Piacere
[Re-edited Hardcore Version]

Country: Spain, France, Portugal
Language: Italian dubbed
Subtitles: English (optional not embedded)
Length: 01:26:38
Resolution: 720x576 (VHS)
Size: MP4 1,28Gb
Genre: Drama, Horror,
Adult

This is a pretty well, if highly praised, film from the Spanish director, which is (apparently) available in three different versions. The version getting all the love and praise is the Spanish version while the French and Italian versions are re-edited with hardcore scenes and an alternate cast added to the mix. The version I watched was the Italian one, which is hard to review due to the hardcore scenes, which were added. The basic plot, I believe, is the same from each version and centers on a woman (Emma Cohen) who suffers a breakdown after the suicide of her sister (played by Lina Romay in this version). Soon after the suicide the sister begins to see her dead sister inside a mirror, which causes her to go out, bring men home and kill them. Again, it's really hard to judge this film due to the added scenes and the fact that the Spanish version is apparently totally different but there was enough here to I loved to recommend people seeing this but at the same time you should certainly try and get the original version (which I will be looking for).
By Michael_Elliott​

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proton117

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Al Otro Lado del Espejo (1973)
AKA Lo Specchio del Piacere
[Re-edited Hardcore Version]

Country: Spain, France, Portugal
Language: Italian dubbed
Subtitles: English (optional not embedded)
Length: 01:26:38
Resolution: 720x576 (VHS)
Size: MP4 1,28Gb
Genre: Drama, Horror,
Adult

This is a pretty well, if highly praised, film from the Spanish director, which is (apparently) available in three different versions. The version getting all the love and praise is the Spanish version while the French and Italian versions are re-edited with hardcore scenes and an alternate cast added to the mix. The version I watched was the Italian one, which is hard to review due to the hardcore scenes, which were added. The basic plot, I believe, is the same from each version and centers on a woman (Emma Cohen) who suffers a breakdown after the suicide of her sister (played by Lina Romay in this version). Soon after the suicide the sister begins to see her dead sister inside a mirror, which causes her to go out, bring men home and kill them. Again, it's really hard to judge this film due to the added scenes and the fact that the Spanish version is apparently totally different but there was enough here to I loved to recommend people seeing this but at the same time you should certainly try and get the original version (which I will be looking for).
By Michael_Elliott​

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thanks Nochvemo for this rare movie
 

Nochvemo

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Laura’s Toys (1975)

Country: USA
Language: English original + Commentary
Subtitles: None
Length: 01:43:52
Resolution: 718x480 (DVD)
Size: MKV 2,09Gb
Genre: Drama,
Erotic

Although quite a few of them were put to good use, LAURA'S TOYS aren't sexual aids, they're the people in her life. Laura (Rebecca Brooke) titillates her archaeologist husband Walter (hardcore porn king Eric Edwards again) with lascivious stories of her & her best friend Hanni's Swiss boarding school sexcapades as foreplay for the couple's active sex life together. However, that doesn't stop Walter from schtupping his attractive assistant Anna (it's a Joe Sarno movie, after all) when they're all at a dig for runes on a remote Swedish island. Meanwhile, Hanni and the boarding school "sewing circle" ditch their husbands once a year for sapphic getaways and they decide to track down Laura who plans to get even with her husband by throwing Anna to the lesbians...
Once again, in writer/director Joe Sarno's universe, all sex is fulfilling but, surprisingly, it isn't the only thing in life this time around and I would have liked to hear a little more about the Viking artifacts they found (outside of the stone phalluses high priestesses used, the subject's not explored). There may be other things in life but rest assured, sex is still a major priority and since everyone's having it, there's a happy ending that's an obvious advertisement for polygamy. There's a dreamy elegance about this high-gloss softcore "male fantasy" that shamelessly explores two of the directors pet fetishes: girl-on- girl sex and the notion that the past sexual entanglements of our youth exert a powerful pull on the rest of our lives. It looks to be something Joe's scared of because after Laura seduces Anna herself and Hanni beds both Walter and Anna, Laura gives a cock-blocking speech about how she's not gonna be Peter Pan anymore and gives Hanni the boot before she, Walter, and Anna link arms and decide to go off on another archaeological dig, this time to Peru.
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Nochvemo

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Le Bijou d'Amour (1978)
AKA The Love Jewel

Country: France
Language: French original
Subtitles: English (optional not embedded)
Length: 01:25:30
Resolution: 1728x1080 (Bluray)
Size: MKV 7,26Gb
Genre: Comedy, Drama, Horror,
Erotic

The idea of a magic bauble that can grant people's sex fantasies dates at least as far back in porn as Gerard Damiano's 1971 XXXer THE MAGICAL RING, but rarely has it been as shoddily executed as Patrice Rohmm's LE BIJOU D'AMOUR ("The Love Jewel"). Given how much Rohmm impressed me with the similarly schizophrenic but infinitely more enjoyable DRAGUSE, it can't help but qualify as a disappointment.
Somehow both simultaneously threadbare and over-complicated, the plot concerns radio journalist Adrien (Jacques Manteil), forced by his boss (a young Brigitte Lahaie) into abandoning his vacation and taking up a departed colleague's report on succubi for their radio program. Venturing to a remote French village for a pre-arranged interview, the guy ends up bumping into some woman and buying a ring off her for 500 francs. When any lady touches it, Adrien finds himself transported to a cave where the two make love.
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MKno1

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Poor Things (2023)
[Uncut Version]

Country: Ireland, UK, USA, Hungary
Language: English original
Subtitles: English, French, Spanish (optionals not embedded)
Length: 02:21:36
Resolution: 1234x744 (HDRip)
Size: MKV 3,58Gb
Genre: Comedy, Drama, Romance, Surreal,
Erotic

For the reason that I'm completely unsure who this film is aimed at (aside from film lovers like myself), I will not be recommending this one, but I'll also state that this is one of my favourite films in years. If that intrigues you, then maybe Poor Things is your cup of tea. Yorgos Lanthimos is a director with a clear vision that I deeply admire. I don't love all of his work, but the worst I can say about any of his films is that I appreciate them. Well, Poor Things just jumped to the top of my list of favourite Lanthimos pictures. This is a pure work of art, in the weirdest, most bizarre way possible. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the brilliance of Poor Things.
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There are parts I really appreciated in the film but for all of its duration I was extremely uneasy with the fact that the film seems to completely forget it stages the sexuality of an infant. Debating free will and consent are one thing, one very good thing in fact. But by the time she arrives in Lisbon, she is a child. No two ways about that.
 

papqnase

New Member
There are parts I really appreciated in the film but for all of its duration I was extremely uneasy with the fact that the film seems to completely forget it stages the sexuality of an infant. Debating free will and consent are one thing, one very good thing in fact. But by the time she arrives in Lisbon, she is a child. No two ways about that.
I don't think the film forgets that. The film is developing this fictional idea of a child in the body of an adult to explore what a life unaffected by societal conditioning, determined only by passion and lust would look like. If she chooses to have sex, so what? As you say, the big question is whether it happens consensually or not. At one point early in the movie, before the Lisbon sequence, the film hints at the possibility that she could be taken advantage of. But then it quite quickly makes very clear that she seeks sex on her own initiative and that she is the one who has the upper hand in all of her sexual encounters.

What makes me uneasy is how children in real life are brought up, in many cases learning that they have to submit themselves to certain social roles etc. in order to fit in in fundamentally oppressive systems. For instance Instagram and TikTok showing young girls how to perfectly fulfill the role of the sexy woman, dress and style themselves accordingly, in a hyper-sexualized way. That, to me, is a far bigger scandal than seeing a pure, liberated girl/woman/human being living the way she wants and I think this disparity is what the film wants to address.

I just don't get this conservative talking point that this film showed that "Hollywood wants to normalize pedophilia". It would be another thing if it was the story of an actual child engaging with men three times her age. But by inventing this figure of a woman with a child's mind, it so clearly points at the values lying behind the story, values of freedom and choice and liberation, and does not sexualize children (while other more mainstream Hollywood productions certainly do).
 

MKno1

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It would be another thing if it was the story of an actual child engaging with men three times her age. B
It IS the story of an actual child engaging with men three times her age. It is literally, exactly, that. Her BODY is of an adult woman. Her BRAIN is that of a child. The reason why modern society tries to shield children from the sexuality of adults is not just a bodily reason. It is also because children have no grasp on the complex set of consequences sexuality engenders. She is 100% in the same case of ignorance. That's my problem with this film.
 
It IS the story of an actual child engaging with men three times her age. It is literally, exactly, that. Her BODY is of an adult woman. Her BRAIN is that of a child. The reason why modern society tries to shield children from the sexuality of adults is not just a bodily reason. It is also because children have no grasp on the complex set of consequences sexuality engenders. She is 100% in the same case of ignorance. That's my problem with this film.
I get your point but at the same we in the real have never had to question the moral issues around this type of thing because Bella could never exist in the real world due to her creation method being impossible thus far.

Its worth noting Mark Ruffulo's character is portrayed as a sleazy creep but he's also not aware Bella has the mind of an actual child and it is shown as she grows and learns she starts to heavily reject him. By the time she's a whore she's very much an adult or a late teen, she's way more switched on and is seemingly smarter then most others and can very much make her own choices even if she's still prone to the manipulation of others. She's never sexually abused though and sex is something she heavily seeks out of her own free will, a 10 year old may start to have urges but they don't seek out sex even if their aware these urges are related to sex.
 

Nochvemo

Well-Known Member
Sleeping Beauties (2017)

Country: USA
Language: English original
Subtitles: English (optional not embedded)
Length: 01:21:12
Resolution: 1280x720 (HDRip)
Size: MKV 1,28Gb
Genre: Comedy, Romance,
Erotic

When you have Sarah hunter , pristine edge as stars then you don't care about story..screenplay...etc. This 81 minutes film is superb.... You get lots and lots of sex... obviously softcore .. Lesbian, threesome, and usual all sex are there. Sarah and her big breasts..oh mine...you want to grab her milky part too... pristine is equally sexy.. All in all watch this ...these beauties will drive you craxy.
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Nochvemo

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Quando l'Amore è Oscenità (1980)
AKA Oscenità

Country: Italy
Language: Italian original
Subtitles: English, Spanish (optionals not embedded)
Length: 01:24:09
Resolution: 720x576 (VHS)
Size: MP4 1,25Gb
Genre: Drama, Sexploitation,
Erotic

It is a very rare and hard to find film. I only know of two sources which carry it. Of all the hype I've heard of this little known rarity, it does stand up to what is said. This movie does deliver the goods. This masterpiece directed by Renato Polselli (aka Ralph Brown) was made in 73, but censors deemed the movie to obscure towards women. The films dialog was changed and not released until 79, taking on a different approach-now aimed at masculine perversions.
Oscenità surely beats out the "sexploitation" competition by D'Amato and others. The film presents an array of nasties, from intercourse with a tree branch, candle masturbation, whipping, switchblade foreplay, orgies in the presence of animals, a woman urinating in a bucket, black magic lesbian rituals, toe masturbation, women fooling around with a real corn on the cobb, and last but not least; a scene with a woman and a donkey, which makes the one in Emanuelle in America seem very tame!!
The film was published in Italian with no subtitles. The picture was not the best quality (which I think actually adds a surreal look to the film), but it was a very interesting viewing experience. I highly recommended this film for fans of exploitation and the obscure.
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Nochvemo

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Fantasm (1976)
[Australian Uncut Version]

Country: Australia
Language: English original + Commentary
Subtitles: English, Spanish (optionals not embedded)
Length: 01:27:08
Resolution: 960x720 (HDRip)
Size: MKV 1,96Gb
Genre: Comedy,
Erotic

This here is best remembered for being the first softcore film to be shown in Australia as well as it featuring some very big stars. The film has a Professor talking to the camera and explaining various female fantasies. From here we see ten different stories dealing with women and their sexual fantasies.
FANTASM basically has ten vignettes and I personally found the majority of them quite boring. I think the history behind this film is the main reason that it is remembered because there's really nothing overly special here in regards to the direction or the stories. I say this because by 1976 America was fully into hardcore pictures and softcore ones like this were pretty much being forgotten. Had FANTASM been released to America I doubt it would have done much but since this was a first in Austrlia it has a bit of history to it.
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Nochvemo

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Macumba Sexual (1983)

Country: Spain
Language: Spanish original
Subtitles: English (optional not embedded)
Length: 01:20:18
Resolution: 1916x802 (Bluray)
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Genre: Horror, Mystery, Romance,
Erotic

This movie was made about the time Jess Franco dove headfirst into hardcore porn after they legalized it in his native Spain (although he'd certainly been involved in it before in more liberal countries). It would take a bigger masochist than me to watch too many of Franco's hardcore efforts, but I think it's pretty safe to say the ONLY thing they had going for them was his leading actress/wife, Lina Romay. Romay is not only by far the best actress to ever grace a porn movie, but she was also incredibly uninhibited even by hardcore porn standards. (In one movie I saw she uses her tongue to clean up a mess a guy had left on another actress' backside, and then later she performs oral sex on a tied-up guy with a voraciousness somewhere between Linda Lovelace and the shark from "Jaws"--you could tell the actor was both really turned-on and completely terrified).
This movie is not really hardcore porn, nor is it even one of Franco's extremely graphic softcore ficks (which I like to call "Lina Romay and friends go to the gynecologist"). What it actually seems to be is an unsimulated, but non-graphic porno movie--which may strike some as a waste of time, but it certainly is different at least.
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Nochvemo

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Bedways (2010)

Country: Germany
Language: German original
Subtitles: English (optional not embedded)
Length: 01:15:19
Resolution: 1440x1080 (Bluray)
Size: MP4 3,78Gb
Genre: Drama, Romance,
Adult

Is it a philosophic porno? Its a little fine stage play, on its best way. Its about desire, obsession for mankind, and so this can be seen as a bridge to be a political movie. The figures are clean and with our empathy They are confronted with our hard reality and all its contradictions. So hardcore? The camera is with the actors, and so they are not lost helpless in their fears, we can smell them and embrace them, we all need love like this. Its some kind of Zeitgeist-movie, but not only German / Berlin. The movie is a laboratory of our feelings, and life.. Its the game with ourself confidence, and tries to understand the stranger in us. Thats really thrilling like an action movie, Bedways it's a movie on the road, a trip through our soul, lets keep there, we are all artworks! Nude bodies are not as an end of itself, we start being our selves in bare bodies. What is love, sex, how do I find it? Is sex love? Do I want great love or better sex? Is love sexy? Extential questions, not all answered, but great films put questions, not answer all questions. Its more than a erotic asking! This movie you can see again and again!
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Nochvemo

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Così Fan Tutte (1992)
AKA All Ladies Do It

Country: Italy
Language: Italian original
Subtitles: English, German, Spanish (optionals not embedded)
Length: 01:36:36
Resolution: 1280x720 (HDRip)
Size: MP4 3,45Gb
Genre: Comedy, Romantic,
Erotic

Italian erotic film from the director of Caligula tells the story of Diana (Claudia Koll), a woman happily married to her husband (Paolo Lanza) for five years. Even though she loves him more than anything that doesn't take away her sexual desires for other men. The husband can't stand not being the only one but perhaps after time he'll learn that "all ladies do it". This is only my second film from Brass and his visual style is certainly on full display here even though his story telling skills aren't the greatest. I was shocked at how well the screenplay actually was because a lot of softcore efforts place the story second behind the sex but that really wasn't the case here. The message of a woman having the right to be "sexual" without being labeled "sluts" was taken very serious by the film. Brass does a very good job with the look of the film with some great cinematography and some wonderful set designs. The biggest issue I had with his direction is that the entire film comes off as a butt fetish video as Brass is constantly zooming in on women's behinds. I like a good butt as much as the next person but after a while it grows quite tiresome but the scene where the women decide to go skinny dipping is priceless. The performances aren't really anything special but they do the job and in the end God knows there's a lot worse out there than this.
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