Our Own Movie? - MSSfilms

[Meyz]

i mentioned before i'm working on mine. Still working on it. Trying to turn it into a short series. It's a black, and white, horror, art film. I have the credentials. I've been a leading actor for 15+ years I was on netflix, tubi, all of it. And then I become an actor, writer, and director. Low budget films. I won't share who i am, or my IMDB to maintain privacy. Reputation is a big deal.

It's not easy to find models/actresses to do nude, unsimulated sex, simulated sex, etc... but it's also not difficult. Especially if you offer privacy. Like editing out nudity, or explicit scenes. And of course money talks. Ultimately, even with my credentials, the problem is that my role would be like a photographer. I'd shoot it, direct it, and co-star. Being the director, and co-star gives women red flags. If I had a casting director, this would all be fairly easy. Real models, real actresses and not porn stars or sex workers. Most have no experience. They might do instagram modeling, and those are the best ones to get, and easiest. But those are also the ones that get paranoid.

I've had a few that agreed, but ultimately didn't work out. Some agreed and got cold feet. I've had discussions with many models/actresses, and I am still in discussion with some. I'm also an attractive man. Which helps.

Then there's money. But it doesn't cost a lot of money at all. Most of these women just want the opportunity.

So if anyone is serious about doing a movie, or helping with mine. Since mine is everything we want. And it would be a 10 episode series. A different girl each episode. Send me a private message.

1 - I'm looking for those who can make a post on a casting site like backstage, Backstage casting will give you a flood of models/actress that will apply for the role. Or contact models/actresses on social media. Or someone who has a friend, or know someone personally who is, or wants to be a model, and actress. And then do all the communication, and negotiations. Basically people acting as casting directors.

2- If people want to invest money. Put in into a pot.

I can make it happen. So, again, if anyone is serious about this, and want to help... send me a private message.

Need to know:
How much you offer a Actress? And what's your preference with Actress? And the Location, how flexible, which Country?

because its easier to get unknown actress then known actress. there are type of searching.

 

[jkrc]

Need to know:
How much you offer a Actress? And what's your preference with Actress? And the Location, how flexible, which Country?

because its easier to get unknown actress then known actress. there are type of searching.

Everyone is different, but for the most part actresses/models care about the opportunity. Not so much about money.

I mean, there really isn't a preference. The beautiful model type.

It is easier. A lot of them are instagram models so they don't do any real modeling or acting jobs. They're all over casting sites. But it's not always easier. "Known" or actresses with experience understand the business. They understand roles. They're professional. They understand pay. These others, have no clue. And they treat it personally rather than professionally. Even though they throw around the word "professional". And some think they're something they're not or worth more than they are. If I approached some instagram model, sometimes they'll feel entitled rather than understand this is a job.

 

[bronski mac]

Some points come to mind:
1. Approaching the concept from the starting point of including an explicit scene is always going to run the risk of it simply being porn with some story thrown in to legitimise it.
2. Persuading your actress that filming an explicit scene won't get them classed as a porn actress is challenge. Not impossible, but that depends on the script, the director and the perceived professionalism of the whole production.
3. Crossover from porn to mainstream is almost unheard of, there are a few that have made a reasonable go of it, but they are rare. The risk to their future mainstream career would be a big consideration for the actress, if the film isn't perceived as "art".

I'm not saying it can't be done. This board is testament to the many films that have managed the balancing act. Just that it's not a simple project to pull off.

 

[jkrc]

It's difficult, but It's easier than people think. Like I mentioned before, most care about the opportunity, and women aren't anti-sex. They like it as much as men do. They love a good erotic film. They love being sexy. They love modeling. Many love being nude, and many love romance/intimacy. They love being objects of desire. They know their role as women. Its more about opportunity like I mentioned. If my film is SAG, or gets a netflix distribution, the more they jump on it because of the opportunity, And they have to feel comfortable. Communication is key. It's not easy, but easier than most think.

Lets say I talk to a model/actress. And I tell them hey, this is explicit, but it'll go to film festivals, get great distribution, you'll become popular, etc etc. They have opportunity. And they're not against it. It just has to be worth it. Not all, but many.

 

[Meyz]

What I would do is Prepare a Script and all the Stuff what is need to be prepared.

THEN:

What is your Location for the Movie? US or Europe? Let's say France as example. Google'/Search about Acting Academy/School in this City (Paris) or near by. Find the Instagram of the Acting School. Look who follows this Page on Instagram. Write them, and tell her about the movie and your realistic goals(not as a director). Tell also that the movie contains sex scenes and probably/maybe it could be also unsimulated like "giving an example". The Actress will be no name but you will get her.

 

[Meyz]

a Model is not a Actress. an unknown actress will say more likely yes then others. if you have cast your first EP it will also get much more easier to hire Models. i'm just wondering what a actress would cost for episode..

 

[jkrc]

I've been doing this for 15+ years. Believe me I know what I'm talking about. When you talk about "unknown" what you're really referring to is amateur's. Those who are aspiring. Some are only interested in acting while some are only interested in modeling. But most do both. Really, they do neither. They do a lot of instagram modeling with joe shmo photographer because that's the only jobs they get. They don't have opportunity.

I've done open casting calls for other films, and most who audition are models or "instagram models". What I'm referring to are the "unknowns". Most "models" want to be actresses. But they don't have those opportunities.

It's easier, or even better to find a model who wants to be an actress. Because models are comfortable with their body. They do lingerie, and nude modeling. So, they're comfortable being nude. They're comfortable with the sexy aspect of it all. They love being an object of desire. A lot of them low key shoot private porn type stuff.

The best bet is casting sites. You'll find actresses/models from all over the world. And they jump at every opportunity. And they use their "hotness" as an advantage.

Now, some people might do things differently, but I urge anyone who wants to make an erotic movie (real or fake) to maintain professionalism. Women will "fuck" for the role. They will fuck on camera for the opportunity. You want to stay away from them. Every T and every I needs to be crossed and dotted. It doesn't just end with someone agreeing to do it. I've had many, many of the most aspiring models, or actresses agree, but it shouldn't end there. It MUST be completely professional or it could become problematic. I've let many of them go because you can tell when someone isn't professional. Women also tend to get cold feet, or change their mind, or flake. This is why "unknown" actresses, or those with little to no experience can be difficult. You can cast an actress, shoot them, finish the film, but they might change their mind later. Which can cause problems.

I was the star of a movie that went to netflix. I couldn't even begin to tell you guys how I had a flood of the hottest girls wanting to work with me. And they'll do nude, sex, whatever you ask. Because they want the opportunity.

As far as "how much". Everyone is different. Some will do it for free. Some will do it for very little. Some might ask for a lot. They care more about opportunity. You have to be careful with that also. If you offer a lot that's kind of a red flag to them. If they ask for a lot that's a red flag for you. Because then it borders on prostitution, and professionalism is thrown out the window. The best way to go about it is having a set rate. This is the pay, plus travel, and stick to it. It needs to be treated as a job.

I can name you guys so many examples of aspiring models, or actresses I've spoken to. And there stories behind them. You have to be careful.

I'm not going to get into any cultural debates here, but I will just say don't believe the woke hype. Women can be extremely problematic.

Sex workers is a different story, but I'm not looking to use them.

 

[Slimmpy09]

Well, you can believe it, but you don't have to.

 

[harper]

I think this is interesting.

• Do you have a script?
• Do you have a website?
• Do you have a company formed?
• Do we have standard legal contracts for actresses to review?

Casting should be easier if all of this is legitimized.

 

[Meyz]

I could find Amateur Actresses without Problem. You reduce everything to the opportunity that the Actress have or will have. That's not your beer, why the Actress is doing a scene like that.

For 2-3k of Euros you should be able to make an serie about 2 Episodes except you want a special model.

 

[jkrc]

I think this is interesting.

• Do you have a script?
• Do you have a website?
• Do you have a company formed?
• Do we have standard legal contracts for actresses to review?

Casting should be easier if all of this is legitimized.

Yes to all of this. NO ONE should be trying to cast for a film without all of these.

I think some of you are not understanding the things I'm saying, or maybe taking them out of context.

Everyone is different. Why would they do a scene like that? It's all, or a combination of many different reasons.

Opportunity - They want to be actresses, or models. They want to work. They want to be in movies. They want to be in magazines. They want to build a resume. They want to build their name. Someone might be quicker to accept a role if it is SAG, if it gets a Netflix distribution, if it'll go to film festivals, etc.

The Role/story - They like the role, and story. If you offer some 90's skinemax role, or some art film, or some horror film, or some love story, etc. This all matters. The more they like it, the more they'll want to do it.

Money - Money can, and to some extent matters. If you're offering someone 2-3k to do a sex scene, and thats the only reason they do it, well, that is borderline prostitution. It should be about the project. And if it is about the project, sure, some women will want to be paid a lot for them to take on a role like that. But a lot don't care. They care most about the opportunity.

A director offers a young beautiful woman a role in a movie. He explains how he wants explicitness, and unsimulated sexual acts. She is unsure. She doesn't know if she'll put herself out there like that. He promises film festivals, distribution, things that make it worth it. She agrees, and does it for free. He accomplishes everything he promised. She is happy.

The most important thing is professionalism.

Look guys, I can say that I been doing this for 15+ years. I can tell you guys how it is, or what my opinion is. You're all welcome to your own opinions.

If people want to make a movie, or help me make mine, I'll accept DM's only because this needs to be serious, and to maintain my privacy. Otherwise, I'm done with this topic.

 

[Chuglu22]

Yes to all of this. NO ONE should be trying to cast for a film without all of these.

I think some of you are not understanding the things I'm saying, or maybe taking them out of context.

Everyone is different. Why would they do a scene like that? It's all, or a combination of many different reasons.

Opportunity - They want to be actresses, or models. They want to work. They want to be in movies. They want to be in magazines. They want to build a resume. They want to build their name. Someone might be quicker to accept a role if it is SAG, if it gets a Netflix distribution, if it'll go to film festivals, etc.

The Role/story - They like the role, and story. If you offer some 90's skinemax role, or some art film, or some horror film, or some love story, etc. This all matters. The more they like it, the more they'll want to do it.

Money - Money can, and to some extent matters. If you're offering someone 2-3k to do a sex scene, and thats the only reason they do it, well, that is borderline prostitution. It should be about the project. And if it is about the project, sure, some women will want to be paid a lot for them to take on a role like that. But a lot don't care. They care most about the opportunity.

A director offers a young beautiful woman a role in a movie. He explains how he wants explicitness, and unsimulated sexual acts. She is unsure. She doesn't know if she'll put herself out there like that. He promises film festivals, distribution, things that make it worth it. She agrees, and does it for free. He accomplishes everything he promised. She is happy.

The most important thing is professionalism.

Look guys, I can say that I been doing this for 15+ years. I can tell you guys how it is, or what my opinion is. You're all welcome to your own opinions.

If people want to make a movie, or help me make mine, I'll accept DM's only because this needs to be serious, and to maintain my privacy. Otherwise, I'm done with this topic.

Hi bro.

I respect your proffesionalism, and agree with you in full. Movies are an artistic manifestation in the first place, and what gets us here in this forum, besides the explicitness, is not the sexual act itself but the way it is performed. We are not looking for porn, we are looking for actors, artists performing art. For that, you need real actors, an script, a story behind and very professional people in the role, production and distribution. And that's why -instead the legal issues with some of the actors involved-, you need to be professional and work with the correct people.

The problem there, is that making a film with that exigency is expensive. But i have a solution: i suggest you search actors in countries like Argentina, Chile, etc. Because the oportunity you refer, is clearly in those countries. In Argentina for example, there are lots of actors an actresses very talented -for not saying the bests- who would love to take the chance to travel to make an erotic film in Europe, that will be distributed and presented in festivals. Thats not only name, publicity, experiencie, its about money costs too. There, you will have that "opportunity" that can make you afford profesional people with less invest, because payments in USD or Euro will be very well recieved in those countries because there, those badges worth double or triple than in other countries.

So is a win-win for everyone. The actors get what they deserve, the directors get professional people to work with, the producers get professional stuff to work with less invest, and the people in this forum will get very happy.

I can name you some actresses that could be interested in perform if you like. But i wish you the best in your project!

 

[jkrc]

Hi bro.

I respect your proffesionalism, and agree with you in full. Movies are an artistic manifestation in the first place, and what gets us here in this forum, besides the explicitness, is not the sexual act itself but the way it is performed. We are not looking for porn, we are looking for actors, artists performing art. For that, you need real actors, an script, a story behind and very professional people in the role, production and distribution. And that's why -instead the legal issues with some of the actors involved-, you need to be professional and work with the correct people.

The problem there, is that making a film with that exigency is expensive. But i have a solution: i suggest you search actors in countries like Argentina, Chile, etc. Because the oportunity you refer, is clearly in those countries. In Argentina for example, there are lots of actors an actresses very talented -for not saying the bests- who would love to take the chance to travel to make an erotic film in Europe, that will be distributed and presented in festivals. Thats not only name, publicity, experiencie, its about money costs too. There, you will have that "opportunity" that can make you afford profesional people with less invest, because payments in USD or Euro will be very well recieved in those countries because there, those badges worth double or triple than in other countries.

So is a win-win for everyone. The actors get what they deserve, the directors get professional people to work with, the producers get professional stuff to work with less invest, and the people in this forum will get very happy.

I can name you some actresses that could be interested in perform if you like. But i wish you the best in your project!

Thank you. I'm in the US btw. Send me a DM