18+ hidden treasures (2013)

mammos

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I wouldn't say you can see the penetration, but rather glimpses that looks like the real thing is going on when he's on top of her.

Did I miss something?

The cunnilingus scene though looks explicit, he is surely there.
 
Hate to break everybody's bubble but if you have the full HD version you could clearly see she is wearing a patch over her pussy when he is going down on her. Also towards the end of the scene, if you observe carefully, there is a moment the guy slides his hand over her pussy and almost fingers her only for her to quickly push his hand away. The guy is a porn star while Sadie Katz has always aspired (and is to a certain extent) to be a mainstream actress. She is clearly not very comfortable with her scenes in this movie, especially since her co stars are mostly adult performers while she does not consider herself one.
 

tdlotslv

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Hate to break everybody's bubble but if you have the full HD version you could clearly see she is wearing a patch over her pussy when he is going down on her. Also towards the end of the scene, if you observe carefully, there is a moment the guy slides his hand over her pussy and almost fingers her only for her to quickly push his hand away. The guy is a porn star while Sadie Katz has always aspired (and is to a certain extent) to be a mainstream actress. She is clearly not very comfortable with her scenes in this movie, especially since her co stars are mostly adult performers while she does not consider herself one.
Fascinating do you have any stills of those particular scenes?
 

signal_20380

Active Member
She clearly has a fairly large patch over her pussy in the beginning, but doesn't seem to have it later in the scene. There are a few frames where it definitely looks like he's really penetrating her. And you can also briefly see her shaved pussy when they're in the spooning position. But I guess there's not really any conclusive evidence of them going the "extra mile", but I'd say it's a possibility.
 
I THINK THE LARGE PAD WAS ONLY IN THE START. LATER IS NOT WITH THE PAD. YOU CAN SEE THE penetration JUST MAKE MORE BRIGHT THE SCREEN
 

tng

Active Member
I was skeptical, but the cut that starts at 6:47 on the first link is pretty clear, there's no way they are not fucking for real. I have a very good monitor and he's really penetrating her. I'd like to see the HD version that Warfighter02 is talking about, because unless his dick is retracting inside his body when he's thrusting, at that angle there's nowhere else it could go but inside her.
 
I got the HD version of the scene from a paysite, namely e4u.com. If anyone is interested in getting a hold of it I suppose they aught to head over there. I am honestly however too lazy to get stills of said scene so I am sorry for that.

That said; I went back to the scene and after a careful analysis came to several conclusions.

1) I just realised that her patch indeed went missing mid scene. The second half of her oral sequence is apparently done without the patch on. Indeed, right at the end of her cunnilingus sequence, you could catch a glimpse of the guy giving a sort of "did you like that" or "that was awesome" smirk. It could be merely a part of the scene, OR, alternatively, a strong indication that he went down on Sadie for real. That would explain the missing patch mid-scene. Maybe they shared a strong enough chemistry that she just said "Ah fuck it, lets loose the patch and you can go down on me for real" ?

2) Just after the missionary sequence begins, a frontal shot is seen for a few seconds as he thrusts into her. If observed carefully around their crotch area, you could see that a slight tint of sort is edited in. My guess is his erect penis is seen clearly at that point, but for whatever reason the editors left in the shot but half bake censored it. Later throughout the scene we will catch several more glimpses of his dick as he thrusts into Sadie. NOW, he may or may not be erect (it could just be a semi). Even if he is erect, he may not be actually penetrating her. I have seen numerous instances in softcore where the guy is obviously or evidently erect but yet clearly no penetration occured. In this case, the guy may have his erection positioned beneath Sadie’s ass, thus from a frontal shot it may appear as if he is actually penetrating her when actually he is just thrusting her butt cleavage.. which is quite hot anyway if you ask me. OR, he may just be banging her for real. Which leads to my third observation below.

3) Remember when I said towards the end of the scene where he is spooning her and the guy reaches down towards her pussy almost fingering her and she pushes him away? After rewatching the scene, I believe I have to correct myself there. Sadie did not actually "push" him away apparently. What I instead saw was a spontaneous reaction on her part where she herself reached down there which prompted the guy to move away from her pussy. NOW, this may have several possible explanations. Number one, as I have mentioned, the guy is a porn star. Sadie is not. He is used to finger banging his co stars while performing. As such he may have inadvertently reached down there which Sadie obviously felt and upon sensing Sadie’s hand-jerk reaction (pun intended) he quicky moved his hand away. This is assuming the entire scene is simulated. Number two, if penetration had occured earlier and they were indeed going at it for real while in the missionary sequence, Sadie’s pussy may be rather sensitive and his reaching down elicited aforementioned response from Sadie. Note that this "may" reinforce my observations in 1) and 2).

3) Lastly, this final observation somehow rather encourages me to throw my bet that the scene was mostly simulated. When he is spooning her, it is obvious that Sadie is not in fact wearing a patch. You could easily catch glimpses of her visible clit. This too however may be the straw that broke the camel’s back. If observed carefully, there are shots where you could see Sadie’s entire pert and sexy ass as well as glimpses of said clit and female genitalia. It would appear that he is obviously not penetration her at this point. As I mentioned, the shots allow brief views of the entirety of her ass from between her legs which also include shots of her pussy and the D is obviously not in the V. I’d wager its hiding somewhere around her small-of-back region.

And so I would ultimately say that the evidence is inconclusive to say beyond any reasonable doubt that the scene is unsimulated. However there is one final and curious detail. In this film Sadie is credited as one "Buffy Green" per her wikipedia page, instead of her real name. One theory is that she may have slipped off road and briefly contemplated going the hardcore route, hence appearing in a softcore production where most of her co stars are porn people. Or... something else, I dunno. In anyway, I think everyone can draw their own conclusions in the end.
 
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signal_20380

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3) Lastly, this final observation somehow rather encourages me to throw my bet that the scene was mostly simulated. When he is spooning her, it is obvious that Sadie is not in fact wearing a patch. You could easily catch glimpses of her visible clit. This too however may be the straw that broke the camel’s back. If observed carefully, there are shots where you could see Sadie’s entire pert and sexy ass as well as glimpses of said clit and female genitalia. It would appear that he is obviously not penetration her at this point. As I mentioned, the shots allow brief views of the entirety of her ass from between her legs which also include shots of her pussy and the D is obviously not in the V. I’d wager its hiding somewhere around her small-of-back region.
Or maybe that part of the scene was filmed at a different time? I assume that even in a low budget film, it would take a reasonably long time to film a scene like this. They could have even taken a lunch brake between takes. ;) Who knows.
 
Or maybe that part of the scene was filmed at a different time? I assume that even in a low budget film, it would take a reasonably long time to film a scene like this. They could have even taken a lunch brake between takes. ;) Who knows.

If you watch carefully, the transition between the missionary sequence and the spooning sequence was done in a single uninterrupted take. BUT, it may (and indeed probably was) have been a separate take and for what ever reason they decided to pause banging, that is if they had actually been having sex during an earlier take.
 
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