"Controversial" movies?

jkrc

Active Member
If this post is in any way inappropriate, please feel free to delete it. I am in no way trying to promote any thing inappropriate.

The controversy I'm referring to has to do with LEGAL, and LEGAL movies ONLY that have actresses appear nude or in sexual scenes when they were under 18. I think of such actresses like Phoebe Cates. When she was 17. In the movie Paradise. It was randomly playing earlier this week, and it's the first time I found out she was about 17 years old. I actually watched the entire film for movie watching purposes because of that. Times have really changed throughout the years. What was once considered to be fairly normal is now considered basically evil.

I'm very curious to find, and learn about other such movies. But it must be LEGAL MOVIES only. I'm genuinely curious. I feel like it should be a perfectly legitimate thing to discuss.

Again, If this post is in any way inappropriate, please feel free to delete it. I am in no way trying to promote any thing inappropriate.
 

sambda

New Member
Nudity under 18 or 16 isn't illegal over here (UK) and there have been quite a few films released containing it ("To The Devil A Daughter" with a full-frontal 15-yo Nastassja Kinski; "Walkabout" with a full-frontal 16-yo Jenny Agutter; to name two off the top of my head - both of which have been on the BBC a number of times. David Hamilton's "Bilitis" used to be shown on ITV with no problems at all. There has to be a sexual element to it or the display of genitalia to be "lascivious" (I think that's the word in the Act) for it to cause too much trouble. In "Les Diables" (2002), for example, the full-frontal nude Adele Haenel (aged about 12, I think) was left in, but her friend's (same age) erection came out. Film wasn't cut in any way in France.

So please don't confuse American neuroses over these things with most of the rest of the world which doesn't quite have the same hang ups.
 

sowbb

Moderator
I'm not an American and I have no problems with legal on-topic movies showing what Americans would consider under-aged nudity. This is why we allow here movies such as Klip, with a cast comprising of 14 year-olds, as the hardcore sex scenes were done by doubles.

However, starting a topic whose entire premise is underaged nudity, on-topic or not, is... problematic. Films such as Klip are allowed here in spite of the young cast and not because of it. I'll let this thread go uninterrupted for now in the interest of free speech, unless overruled by a higher authority, but I'm watching it!

Thin ice, people...
 

jkrc

Active Member
I understand. That's why I put in my post that in no way am I intending to promote anything inappropriate. Or anything against the rules. I'm only asking about legal films. Films that are available for anyone to watch, like the movie Klip you mentioned. I'm very curious to know what other movies are out there like that. None of which are unlawful.
 

sambda

New Member
I'm not an American and I have no problems with legal on-topic movies showing what Americans would consider under-aged nudity. This is why we allow here movies such as Klip, with a cast comprising of 14 year-olds, as the hardcore sex scenes were done by doubles.

However, starting a topic whose entire premise is underaged nudity, on-topic or not, is... problematic. Films such as Klip are allowed here in spite of the young cast and not because of it. I'll let this thread go uninterrupted for now in the interest of free speech, unless overruled by a higher authority, but I'm watching it!

Thin ice, people...
Why? How on Earth can discussing it be illegal?
 

Petr_1988

Well-Known Member
I think the most famous example is Maladolescenza 1977 with Eva Ionesco (she was 12 years old). In 2011, Eva directed the autobiographical My Little Princess, where she was played by Anamaria Vartolomei (beauty from L'événement 2021).
Another Beau-père 1981 with Ariel Besse (age 16).
There is also the documentary educational Sexuele voorlichting 1991, which includes full nudity of teenagers and unsimulated sex of an adult couple.
It seems to me that most of these films are left in the dissolute 1970s. Now this is almost impossible to meet without running into accusations of pedophilia.
P.S. As a father to a daughter, I don't really like this topic, but as a collector, such LEGAL films are of some interest.
 

sowbb

Moderator
Why? How on Earth can discussing it be illegal?
Discussing this is not illegal, and this is why this thread was not deleted and nobody got banned. Freedom of speech and all, as I said.

My concern is that this sort of thread is a magnet for trouble. Eventually this thread will spawn requests and maybe even posts, which will belong in one of three categories:
  1. Non-explicit and non-graphic scenes with underage nudity, which don't belong here because they are non-explicit and rules.
  2. Explicit or graphic scenes involving underage participants, which don't belong here because they are illegal, immoral and rules.
  3. Straight up child p**n scenes which don't belong anywhere because they are illegal, just plain evil, and rules. You would think no one would be stupid enough to post in this category, but you'd be wrong.

Also, this sort of discussion, while borderline acceptable between real collectors, unsurprisingly tends to attract the creeps and pedos from their holes. We really don't want to attract the scrutiny of "pedo hunters" \ hackers or of law enforcement agencies. We also don't want to get reported to Google and other unpleasantries.
 

lordfilms

Active Member
Dakota Fanning



Dakota Fanning played in the movie "Hunted" when she was 12. There is nothing extremely explicit in the picture, except for a single scene where a young heroine is offered a ticket to an Elvis Presley concert in exchange for undressing and dancing. After that, an adult guy knocks the girl to the ground and rapes her.

Brooke Shields



At the age of 10 she starred for Playboy, at the age of 13 she played a young prostitute in the film "The Lovely Child", at the age of 15 she played the main role in the erotic drama "Blue Lagoon"

Brooke Shields became famous for her role in the film "Blue Lagoon", which she played at the age of 15. The young actress starred in a number of explicit scenes: she walked in a loincloth and had sex with Richard Christopher Atkins.

Milla Jovovich



Mila Jovovich played in the second part of the film – "Return to the Blue Lagoon". Then she was only 15 years old, but the young actress could not avoid explicit scenes during filming.

Dominic Swain



One of the famous Nabokov "Lolitas" at one time was Dominique Swain. When the film came out, the actress was only 15. During the joint scenes between the girl and Jeremy Irons, a pillow was laid, and in too intimate episodes it was replaced by an understudy, since under American law underage actresses cannot participate in filming scenes of sexual intercourse. Nevertheless, a young actress played in many explicit scenes: for example, she herself starred in erotic scenes with kisses.

Kirsten Dunst



Kirsten Dunst has had many striking roles: Mary Jane in the Spider-Man film series, Judy Shepherd in the film "Jumanji". However, in an interview, she recalled her role in the movie "Interview with a Vampire" and admitted that her first kiss happened with Brad Pitt. "It was terrible," the young actress confessed, recalling a candid scene in a feature film. At that time, Kirsten was only 12!

Jodie Foster



Jodie Foster played the role of a prostitute in the movie "Taxi Driver" at the age of 13. The young actress in the candid scenes was remembered by the audience. "I just finished filming Scorsese in the movie Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, and he called my mom about The Taxi Driver. At first she thought Martin was crazy. Nevertheless, we met anyway. Mom thought I wasn't right for the role, but Martin convinced her," Jody said.

Nikki Reed



Nikki Reed starred in the movie "Mini has it for the first time" when she was 17 years old. The film was released in 2006, but the scandal associated with the role of the main character broke out only in 2016 in connection with the release of Alec Baldwin's memoirs. According to Baldwin, the producers deceived him about the age of the girl: he did not suspect that such a young actress was involved in explicit scenes.


Agnieszka Wlodarczyk



At the age of 16, she played in the drama "A Guard for her daughter" the Polish drama tells about the affair of the 16-year-old daughter of a criminal authority with her security guard. The performer of the main role was actually 16 years old, but tender age did not prevent Agnieszka from passionately and convincingly playing in frank scenes of intimacy with her adult lover. After the release of the film, the Polish version of Playboy magazine immediately wanted to get a beauty for itself, but the publishers still decided to wait for the actress to come of age. Wlodarczyk became the heroine of the cover at the age of 21.

Christine Boisson



At the age of 17, she played in the erotic melodrama "Emmanuel" The main character of the cult picture is the Dutch actress Sylvia Kristel, who was 22 years old at the time of the film's release. However, a young Frenchwoman, Christine Boisson, also appears in the frame with Sylvia. For a high school student, it was her film debut.

Simonetta Stefanelli



At the age of 15 played in the second part of "The Godfather" and in the comedy "Don't do dirty deeds" actress Simonetta Stefanelli, played the first wife of the mafia Michael Corleone, whom he met in Sicily. After the scene of the wedding night of the newlyweds, it's hard to believe that the actress is only 15 years old. And this makes it even more surprising that for Simonetta this role was not the first work in a candid movie. A year earlier, she starred in the erotic comedy "Don't do dirty deeds."

Olivia Hussey



At the age of 16, she played in the film adaptation of William Shakespeare's tragedy Romeo and Juliet In Shakespeare's time, the romance of 13-year-old Juliet with 17-year-old Romeo did not raise questions. But in 1968, even a 16-year-old actress put the director under censorship. The author of the film, Franco Zeffirelli, sought special permission to show Olivia Hussey's breasts on the screen. But the most interesting thing is that she was not even able to immediately evaluate the result of her work! The actress was not allowed to attend the premiere of the picture marked 18+.

Penelope Cruz



At the age of 16, she played in the drama "Ham, ham" For young Penelope, the tragicomedy "Ham, ham" became fateful. The debut in the feature film opened the way for the actress to a big movie, and at the same time brought Penelope with the man of her dreams.

Ornella Muti



At the age of 16, she played in the drama "The Sun on the skin" The film about first love and flight from parents became the second in the resume of the Italian beauty.

Charlotte Gainsbourg



At the age of 14, she played in the drama "The Cheeky Girl", at the age of 15 — in the film "Charlotte Forever", at the age of 17 - in "The Little Thief"

Keira Knightley



At the age of 15 played in the drama "The Pit" In general, the film "Pit" is never about love, so be prepared for a heavy aftertaste if you decide to see the picture for the first time. But in the "Pit" you can see explicit scenes with the participation of young Kira.

Tora Birch



At the age of 16, she played in the drama "American Beauty" Tora was born into a family of porn actors — her parents starred in the legendary "Deep Throat". Tora's father and mother also acted as their daughter's managers. It is not surprising that they signed a consent for nude shooting of a girl in "American Beauty".

Vanessa Paradis



At the age of 16, she first appeared on movie screens, playing a role in the film "White Wedding", for which Vanessa received the Cesar Award, The talent and looseness of the young actress made her popular in an instant, but there was also a downside to the resounding success: due to the abundance of explicit scenes in the film, some viewers gave the actress a real bullying. The walls of her house were covered with insults, and Vanessa's younger sister had to mark college to be left alone.

Sophie Marceau



The French singer, actress and director Sophie Marceau got into the cinema by accident. The casting director, who was looking for a teenager for a role in the comedy "Boom", found 13-year-old Sophie in one of the modeling agencies where she studied. The film was a resounding success at the box office and became a high-profile debut for the young actress.
A few years later, the continuation of the youth comedy "Boom 2" is coming out, in which a little older and prettier, 15-year-old Marceau showed the audience her rounded forms for the first time, however, trying not to go beyond the bounds of decency.

Rosario Dawson



At the age of 15, young Dawson starred in the drama "Kids", telling the story of the life of the children of the streets of New York. Many of the young actors seriously believed that they were being filmed for a documentary, and some guys were taken to shoot directly from the street, which is why it turned out dirty, creepy, but true.

Nastasia Kinski

At the age of 14, Nastasia exposed herself in the film "False Movement"

Jennifer Connelly



American actress Jennifer Connelly, who has been acting in advertising in magazines since the age of 10, at the age of 13 played in the film masterpiece directed by Sergio Leone "Once upon a Time in America". Although she got a small role, but memorable. Maybe because the young actress managed to flash her fifth point in the frame, which gave a good start to her acting career.
 

tdlotslv

Moderator
Discussing this is not illegal, and this is why this thread was not deleted and nobody got banned. Freedom of speech and all, as I said.

My concern is that this sort of thread is a magnet for trouble. Eventually this thread will spawn requests and maybe even posts, which will belong in one of three categories:
  1. Non-explicit and non-graphic scenes with underage nudity, which don't belong here because they are non-explicit and rules.
  2. Explicit or graphic scenes involving underage participants, which don't belong here because they are illegal, immoral and rules.
  3. Straight up child p**n scenes which don't belong anywhere because they are illegal, just plain evil, and rules. You would think no one would be stupid enough to post in this category, but you'd be wrong.

Also, this sort of discussion, while borderline acceptable between real collectors, unsurprisingly tends to attract the creeps and pedos from their holes. We really don't want to attract the scrutiny of "pedo hunters" \ hackers or of law enforcement agencies. We also don't want to get reported to Google and other unpleasantries.
Indeed .I agree with your assessment on this matter, after all we did have a guy on here amongst us that eventually wet to prison for being an allege podophile, and so I mad at anyone for having these genuine concerns
 
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